tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.comments2024-03-01T02:28:02.364-08:00Metaphorical WebAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11746604103523406806noreply@blogger.comBlogger4188125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-34874396726985842532013-10-12T14:30:36.932-07:002013-10-12T14:30:36.932-07:00Being an engineer, I am sometimes accused of "...Being an engineer, I am sometimes accused of "Not thinking like we do". After reading this essay, I am encouraged that my thinking is evidently recognized. Also, I am encouraged that we (collectively) are escaping from the disasterous 20th century into a more humane time.<br /><br />The problem that I see is that many "western" societies are mired in 20th century thinking. With such an approach, my logic says to explore contributing to societies which are free from 20th century ideas.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05593034413810763493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-56709369524010529342013-10-12T14:26:41.160-07:002013-10-12T14:26:41.160-07:00Being an engineer, I am sometimes accused of "...Being an engineer, I am sometimes accused of "Not thinking like we do". After reading this essay, I am encouraged that my thinking is evidently recognized. Also, I am encouraged that we (collectively) are escaping from the disasterous 20th century into a more humane time.<br /><br />The problem that I see is that many "western" societies are mired in 20th century thinking. With such an approach, my logic says to explore contributing to societies which are free from 20th century ideas.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05593034413810763493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-64780056926650386222013-02-25T09:16:53.328-08:002013-02-25T09:16:53.328-08:00Nice article.
What about defining the terms of ...Nice article. <br /><br />What about defining the terms of "local" a bit more? For instance, in his book "A Pattern Language" (Oxford U. Press, 1977), Christopher Alexander calls for subdividing the world into about 1,000 independent regions of about 2~10 million inhabitants each, with evenly distributed towns of various sizes. So how will locality work in your vision?<br /><br />Also, could try thought experiments with a few, more pessimistic scenarios. Resistance to wealth redistribution, for instance. Stefanhttp://www.stefansaal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-86198990591787703812013-02-25T09:15:22.251-08:002013-02-25T09:15:22.251-08:00Nice article.
What about defining the terms of ...Nice article. <br /><br />What about defining the terms of "local" a bit more? For instance, in his book "A Pattern Language" (Oxford U. Press, 1977), Christopher Alexander calls for subdividing the world into about 1,000 independent regions of about 2~10 million inhabitants each, with evenly distributed towns of various sizes. So how will locality work in your vision?<br /><br />Also, could try thought experiments with a few, more pessimistic scenarios. Resistance to wealth redistribution, for instance. Stefanhttp://www.stefansaal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-82253219359831604232013-02-13T11:17:50.631-08:002013-02-13T11:17:50.631-08:00Ed,
I absolutely agree with you on the change in ...Ed,<br /><br />I absolutely agree with you on the change in the nature of money - I'm actually writing a post on that very thing write now.<br /><br />My primary problem with the Toefflers is that I believe they've lost their impartiality. Perceiving trends generally requires that you can step outside of the overall framework and see it from the outside, which is usually easiest when you don't have a specific perspective within the framework that you've also taken. In practice it's not always easy - you will always be perceiving from one perspective or another, so it is generally best to cultivate several. The Tofflers now tend to look at the world through the lenses of their primary clients, who are CEOs, financiers and heads of state, and this particular perspective is notable for the degree to which it wraps the participants in a bubble. The world ALWAYS looks better if you have several million in the bank, but for futurists such as Alvin and Heidi Toffler, it can also mean that they don't see the bigger negative trends.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11746604103523406806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-80461059513375293822013-02-13T07:41:31.736-08:002013-02-13T07:41:31.736-08:00Really excellent piece. I think your solutions are...Really excellent piece. I think your solutions are interesting, but I think that we are unaware of how the one fundamental will change,Money itself. How we exchange value is changing, and that makes a huge difference. Check of Toeffler's Revolutionary Wealth for that final key.Ed Hubbardhttp://paganics.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-61456853754341909482013-01-11T17:56:34.600-08:002013-01-11T17:56:34.600-08:00Golly, so many generalizations without any referen...Golly, so many generalizations without any references.<br /><br />Each paragraph both arguable and worthy of reflection.<br /><br />Interesting for what has been left out, along with the tidbits worthy of reflection.<br /><br />C-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-17963947853441450442013-01-06T12:37:11.696-08:002013-01-06T12:37:11.696-08:00Re: Driving down wages - yes, it will, but not uni...Re: Driving down wages - yes, it will, but not uniformly. This is the fundamental argument for or against the welfare state, an experiment that I believe was aborted by the US before it really had a chance to be proved out.<br /><br />We live in a regime where the number of available job "slots" is dropping dramatically, and only some of that can be attributed to a poor economy. Automation and information technologies are, together, making a wide swathe of jobs obsolete, and these will not come back as the economy improves. Meanwhile the number of new jobs that are generated by this same automation is considerably smaller. This means that the capacity of the US economy to generate jobs in the first place is diminishing.<br /><br />This is in fact causing wages to drop pretty much across the board, except among the rentier class who benefit from the continued automation. The problem is that the rentier economy by itself is too small to continue to generate profits ... over time, it too will sputter out, leaving a country where most people have too little to live on, which will in turn generate a gray market economy outside of any control.<br /><br />The goal of a minimal payment is to provide a mechanism for allowing people to develop alternative skills and experiences. It would allow interns to work for companies or startups while not being dependent upon student loans, it would let people hone their writing or programming or (fill in the blank) skills. It would allow people to innovate and build up intellectual capital that could be essential for starting their own companies, and it would reduce the overall wages required by such startups until such a time as their being profitable.<br /><br />This differs significantly from the English Industrial revolution, which required large numbers of laborers in the factories - effectively the opposite of the situation that exists now. Then, the number of jobs was growing faster than the collection of inhabitants in the cities could successfully satisfy, which forced the mercantile classes of the time to migrate outward to the countries and to offer wages in the first place (keep in mind that prior to that, much of England was essentially a barter economy). <br /><br />Now the number of jobs is diminishing relative to the overall populace, and it is diminishing systemically. The credit economy was built on the industrialization concept and economic growth, but now we are faced with diminishing jobs where those jobs have a higher degree of specialization.<br /><br />Overall, the increased velocity of money in a society with a floor may in fact lower the wages of some specialists, but it will have the largest impact upon those reliant upon royalty incomes exclusively, capping those potential gains. Currently this is recovered by the government via capital gains taxes, but too much of those gains in turn go to fund expensive military budgets (primarily complex weapon systems) that ends up circulating these taxes back among a much smaller economy. [Note: not being anti-war here, just noting that wages for most military personnel below the rank of General have declined even more than civilian jobs have, so the problem is not in military pay, save at the most senior levels.]Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11746604103523406806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-27261821097664668412013-01-06T12:00:49.369-08:002013-01-06T12:00:49.369-08:00Re: generations. These are definitely generalizati...Re: generations. These are definitely generalizations, though not necessarily stereotyping. I'd be more inclined to say that there are certain characteristics that tend to be more common within a given generation than another (and even within that generation those characteristics will change as you near either end around the peak) and it is those characteristics that, taken in the aggregate, are more likely to shape both the economy and social mores. There are many entrepreneurs within the GenXer generation, for instance, but as a generation, it was shaped by certain significant factors, such as the rise of personal computing and the Internet (which occurred during those years that the GenXers entered the workforce).<br /><br />You can obviously slice up such generations differently. If you went from trough to trough, for instance, rather than midpoint to midpoint, you'd get a different set of characteristics, in the aggregate, but there would still be evident characteristics. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11746604103523406806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-81373106457133775292013-01-06T11:23:20.929-08:002013-01-06T11:23:20.929-08:00"establish a government base payment that pro..."establish a government base payment that provides a floor for subsistence living for everyone, coupled with wage payments from jobs to fill in towards a production royalty payoff that provides wealth for people willing to put in expertise and effort"<br /><br />This will drive down wages. See Polanyi's "The Great Transformation"and his remarks on models in England purportedly designed to deal with a changing economic regime when the rural economies became dominated by urban trade economies and the new factory modes of production.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-78936459491676957052013-01-06T10:56:19.795-08:002013-01-06T10:56:19.795-08:00A great article, some very interesting analysis, t...A great article, some very interesting analysis, to the extent I've bookmarked it, which I rarely do :) However, I think you overemphasize/stereotype the different generations. There are, and always have been, people who hold the attitudes you mention, in all generations :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-85569109968007463082013-01-06T09:56:33.660-08:002013-01-06T09:56:33.660-08:00well thought out and i like it cheers well thought out and i like it cheers Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078260.post-40900630324931128572012-09-26T20:22:58.020-07:002012-09-26T20:22:58.020-07:00Nice piece of writing....depressing possibility.
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